We're preparing to have a new kitchen fitted and I'm very excited

[Ron Beard]

It's going to be the very classy Arundel suite from Homebase.

I'm spending my evenings re-routing cables and cutting chases.


Mrs B and Rex aren't happy because I had to tear up the tiles in the bathroom and lift sections of the floorboards.


Dear old Rex almost disappeared through the floor the other evening! But he reacted quickly and survived. Well, he would. Being an old actor he's used to the principle of the trap-door.


Anyway...I'm in control at the moment but if I experience any problems I'll get back to you good people and ask for your advice.



Best regards,
Ron.

[Scanner]

Originally Posted by Ron Beard

It's going to be the very classy Arundel suite from Homebase.

I'm spending my evenings re-routing cables and cutting chases.


Mrs B and Rex aren't happy because I had to tear up the tiles in the bathroom and lift sections of the floorboards.


Dear old Rex almost disappeared through the floor the other evening! But he reacted quickly and survived. Well, he would. Being an old actor he's used to the principle of the trap-door.


Anyway...I'm in control at the moment but if I experience any problems I'll get back to you good people and ask for your advice.



Best regards,
Ron.

I am guessing you live somewhere in the UK? I am also guessing that you aren't a Part P qualified electrician?

If both these questions are answered by yes, you can not do the electrics in your kitchen as it is against the law. Surely you are aware of the regulations covering your own home or one that's rented?

Glad to be of service.

[Shiraz]

Isn't it OK as long as you have it all checked out afterwards (at huge expense, no doubt!)

[Roberto]

Originally Posted by Scanner

I am guessing you live somewhere in the UK? I am also guessing that you aren't a Part P qualified electrician?

If both these questions are answered by yes, you can not do the electrics in your kitchen as it is against the law. Surely you are aware of the regulations covering your own home or one that's rented?

Glad to be of service.

Just in passing, the only electrical hazard that has occurred in this household during the past forty years was caused by wiring installed by a qualified professional electrician in a hurry. (I'm sure the rules were drawn up with the best of intentions, but there's always a lurking suspicion that "jobs for the boys" entered into it )

[Scanner]

Originally Posted by Roberto

Just in passing, the only electrical hazard that has occurred in this household during the past forty years was caused by wiring installed by a qualified professional electrician in a hurry. (I'm sure the rules were drawn up with the best of intentions, but there's always a lurking suspicion that "jobs for the boys" entered into it )

Yeah unfortunately there are always those who spoil it for others.

Wasn't me was it???

Shiraz, the law states that you have to inform your local authority of and electrical work to your property, before you do it. You don't have to tell them about minor works, adding an extension socket to existing wiring or a light to an existing circuit as long as you are a 'competent person'.

However, there are restrictions to this rule. A 'competent person' is not allowed to add too, change or install in a bathroom, kitchen or outside works. These have to be carried out by a Part P registered electrician.

[Shiraz]

Originally Posted by Scanner

Shiraz, the law states that you have to inform your local authority of and electrical work to your property, before you do it. You don't have to tell them about minor works, adding an extension socket to existing wiring or a light to an existing circuit as long as you are a 'competent person'.

However, there are restrictions to this rule. A 'competent person' is not allowed to add too, change or install in a bathroom, kitchen or outside works. These have to be carried out by a Part P registered electrician.

Thanks for the clarification. We always get someone in to do the above, what a palaver though. We had a bathroom extractor fan fitted recently and the electrician was telling me of all the forms he has to fill in.

[Scanner]

Originally Posted by Shiraz

Thanks for the clarification. We always get someone in to do the above, what a palaver though. We had a bathroom extractor fan fitted recently and the electrician was telling me of all the forms he has to fill in.

Yup and the trouble with that is, you are charged for the time it takes us to fill out all the forms!

Electrician charges to customers went up drastically because of all the new equipment, forms and other charges made on us. Governments,

[Ron Beard]

Originally Posted by Scanner

Yup and the trouble with that is, you are charged for the time it takes us to fill out all the forms!

Electrician charges to customers went up drastically because of all the new equipment, forms and other charges made on us. Governments,

I'm preparing all the electrical stuff myself, Scanner.

When I'm finished I shall, of course, get in a qualified electrician to check all my work as is required by law.


I promise! Despite the fact that I'm an idiot, know nothing about how dangerous electricity can be and am extremely careless about my own safety and the safety of others.






Best regards,
Ron.

[Scanner]

Originally Posted by Ron Beard

I'm preparing all the electrical stuff myself, Scanner.

When I'm finished I shall, of course, get in a qualified electrician to check all my work as is required by law.


I promise! Despite the fact that I'm an idiot, know nothing about how dangerous electricity can be and am extremely careless about my own safety and the safety of others.






Best regards,
Ron.

While I find your honesty admirable, I would enquire into the honesty of your sparky (electrician). No Part P registered electrician is allowed to pass anyone else's work, even if the other person who did the work is a qualified electrician but not part P....

So, your electrician would have to claim it as his work then, be liable should anything go wrong later.

Regards,

[Chinchilla]

You could always just do it. And if anyone asks, tell them you installed the kitchen in 2004.

It's a stupid rule anyway. I'm a elcetrical engineer, I can work on equipment up to 11,000 volts in nuclear installations and oil-rigs, but I'm not allowed to put a spur socket in my own kitchen.

The only person I ever knew who managed to electrocute himself was our local (part P qualified) electrician. (Mind you my dad came close once, but he's mad.)

[Scanner]

With the new colour wire? Building inspector won't accept that.

If you own the house, when it comes time to get the HIP done to sell it, if you haven't got the certificate, you won't be able to complete the HIP and you wont be able to sell your house. Now that's stupid too!

If you want the spur done Chinch, give me a yell lol. I bet you have a store of old coloured wire too.....

[Ron Beard]

Originally Posted by Scanner

While I find your honesty admirable, I would enquire into the honesty of your sparky (electrician). No Part P registered electrician is allowed to pass anyone else's work, even if the other person who did the work is a qualified electrician but not part P....

So, your electrician would have to claim it as his work then, be liable should anything go wrong later.

Regards,

Bloody hell! So that's another £100 wasted! He had such an honest name: A N Other. I've always found the postboard in my newsagent's shop reliable before.


What did you mean by 'should anything go wrong later', Scanner?

Some work is done and is tested, i.e. an appliance is plugged in and switched on. It works. And the house doesn't burst into flames and no-one dies because 240 volts suddenly courses down his or her spinal cord to find it's home in the earth.





Regards,
Ron (The Switch) Beard.

[Tantric Tart]

Originally Posted by Ron Beard

Bloody hell! So that's another £100 wasted! He had such an honest name: A N Other. I've always found the postboard in my newsagent's shop reliable before.


What did you mean by 'should anything go wrong later', Scanner?

Some work is done and is tested, i.e. an appliance is plugged in and switched on. It works. And the house doesn't burst into flames and no-one dies because 240 volts suddenly courses down his or her spinal cord to find it's home in the earth.
.

You'll never get a job with Haliburton in Iraq then. ...

Or mexico.......

Best Wishes

[Ron Beard]

Originally Posted by Scanner

If you want the spur done Chinch, give me a yell lol. I bet you have a store of old coloured wire too.....

Whatever price Scanner quotes you, Chinchilla, I'll do it for less.

In fact, I'll do it for nothing. Well...a cup of tea and few biscuits.




Regards,
Ron.

[Ron Beard]

Originally Posted by Tantric Tart

You'll never get a job with Haliburton in Iraq then. ...

Or mexico.......

Best Wishes

One of these days you'll master the use of the capital letter, TT...

Who the hell is Haliburton?



Best regards,
Ron.