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George Lucas interview

GEORGE LUCAS

GEORGE LUCAS


George Lucas is a happy man. Not only is his latest addition to the Star Wars saga Attack of the Clones receiving some rave reviews (his friend and colleague Steven Spielberg publicly announced it his second favourite Star Wars movie after Empire Strikes Back when he saw it last week), but most of the negative attention given to The Phantom Menace has subsided.

Those who have already seen Attack of the Clones will know that there is plenty to cheer about. So when Tiscali caught up with Lucas, as well as his producer Rick McCallum and the actors Samuel L Jackson (Mace Windu), Hayden Christensen (the nineteen-year-old Anakin Skywalker), Christopher Lee (Count Dooku) and Ian Macdiarmid (Supreme Chancellor Palpatine) they were all in chipper spirits, despite being out late the night before celebrating the director's 55th birthday.

Lucas is sanguine about The Phantom Menace three years after its release. He still strongly defends the film which disappointed so many and sees it as an essential first chapter in a six-movie series. It looks like fans will have to like it or lump it, although the director concedes that he himself is not a great fan of beginnings:

"When it all started I wrote it as one little movie, which was Episode 4 and I wanted very much to start in the middle. I don't like to start at the beginning because the first act is not always that entertaining, but you have to have it. So I figured out this method by saying well, we can all just come in at the middle."

But he is intent that all of the movies should be seen as separate entities that can stand alone in their own right.

"My primary concern", admits the director "is to make each episode work for the audience and make it so that it is not necessary to have seen the movie before and the movie after."

It's nearly twenty years since the third part of the first trilogy hit our screens %u2013 so what exactly has Lucas been up to, apart from producing the Indiana Jones television series?

"Well, one of the exercises I wanted to do after Jedi was to see if the companies I had built could survive not having Star Wars in their life. So we went for fifteen years, and the companies not only survived but they prospered and we were now able to finance a $120m movie."

And, needless to say the writer/director/producer had to wait for technology to catch up with his vision.

"When I finished the first three films, I was kind of burned out", he confesses. "They were written as films and within the technology that had existing at the time, which was film, and I pushed that technology as far as I could in terms of special effects and puppetry. When I came back to decide I was going to direct again we'd moved the technology so far forward at Industrial Light and Magic (Lucas's special effects house) I could begin to see how we could develop the story and move further around the galaxy."

The advances in technology of course meant big changes for the actors too. And some of these are not always welcome. While Christopher Lee praises the way Lucas handles the combination of real actors and digital characters, he warns that it is very much a rarity in modern movie-making.

"There is a danger and I think that there are two extremes in making films these days", says the 80-year-old. "One is make-up and the other is special effects. If you have an excess of either, which often happens in so many films nowadays that it is getting out of control it can be a question of overdoing it. But in a film like Star Wars that doesn't arise - it's actually a terrific help to us performers."

Ian MacDiarmid, whose career in the series spans all of the films, faced a different challenge.

The esteemed stage actor chuckles: "It has been odd for me because when I first got the part I was 120 years old as the Emperor and then 20 years later when George asked me to resume the character who was roughly my own age, I was 20 years older!"

But the last word remains with the director. Is he at all tempted to continue the series beyond the six films and make the much-rumoured nine? He is adamant that the answer is no. " I have other movies I want to make. The next film I am doing is the end of the saga as it was originally conceived". And with that the team depart back to the United States where the movie is anticipated to make over $90m in its opening weekend.


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